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sue
May 19, 2008, 6:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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corky been lookin for
Edit your marketing preferences

logged into mail
then my yahoo thing,
was like a profile page

then loked at this logged in news page type thing,

cant see it.

Since havin a pc only used about 3 yahoo addys,
so never known about any other emall pages  
not very tech minded..
And used about 2 hotmail ones,
which is only really for msn chattin


think my i tunes is set to a yahoo page,
my space,
suppose a new mail addy they could be changed   no idea really...

Neil you say you have free Email things..
Wonder if to change,
gosh its like changin my coffee  
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I have exactly the same problrem Sue, I think Yahoo! have changed the pages to this more difficult to do now. I have one of Neils Email accounts, and no dodgy mails so far (after 3 months.)  



Nigel ?  Oh yeah, he's up there !
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Corky, how did you "learn" all this - and how to "empty" on-line accounts? It makes me wonder who has the "knowledge" to teach this stuff to pass it on.... I'm not sure I'm making sense with that, do you know what I'm getting at????


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Maxine, its dead easy to set up a phishing web site, anyone that can create a web page can do phishing... thats the easy bit... The hard bit is to educate people, like Corky is doing not to fall into the traps...


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Maxine its just simple common sense. I know your concerns and I guarantee no matter how desperate I might get I'll never resort to anything like that. I know because the Internet is a massively wealthy source of information. I'm also massively proud of my own reputation and integrity.

I can find out how to make a bomb, kill a man with bare hands, make poisons and etc. All the evils of the world are there on the net for anyone to research.... But I look on the good side of things and get as much satisfaction out of educating, as some get from stealing. All I intend to do here is show you how easy it can be to do this, and pass on how just as easy it can be to prevent it happening to you. Anyone who tries this exercise is explicitly asked to enter a made up name, email and password.

All I do then is show them what I get. I would rather someone kept their ID here than try to help in a future post to advise what to do now their bank is empty. Scary I know, but I teach this using the exact same example to people between 20 and 80. Not one has ever said how scared they were about being online, once shown this and then shown exactly how to prevent it happening to them in the first place. Criminals are are hugely clever bunch, if they weren't they wouldn't get away with these things.

I'll post a document I use shortly that will explain how to spot these and other dodgy email rubbish. You'd be surprised just how easy it is once you know the signs. But the people I teach are new to the net and, quite simply put, are prime targets for these thieving gits. But they are by no means the only candidates...

About Yahoo: seems they are going the same way as MSN and changing their services. Neil made a very good suggestion there and I can only agree that if you can take up the offer of his Email service you'll be much safer. MSN, Hotmail etc are just goldmine for scammers, Spammers and other lowlife, hence I only have one for Microsoft data and emails, and nothing else. If you really must use a public email then I would recommend Email, but talk to Neil about his services first!




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I have exactly the same problrem Sue, I think Yahoo! have changed the pages to this more difficult to do now. I have one of Neils Email accounts, and no dodgy mails so far (after 3 months.)  



good glad it was'nt just me, bein dumb!!!

was it a clart on goin round changin your email addy to the new one,
like paypal etc

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Yes, Corky, you did have my vital info there....so, how did you get it?? And more importantly, how can we recognise it and not fall for it????
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OK, this is fairly common knowledge so should be safe......

I designed an email, putting pressure on you (pattern number 1 for dodgy mails) and pushed you into clicking the link through panic, threatening to close your account. Human nature is to panic and not think as clearly, which is a confidence trick older than the hills. The Email is usually designed to look as good as an official one, using the original logos and even some real links at the bottom.

The vital link is the one you are told to click.

But, before you do, stop for a minute. Hover your mouse over that link (but don't click). You may get a white box appear just below it, or the link will be shown at the bottom left of your browser in the grey area, and this will display the REAL link. Its easy to fake a link, disguising it as something else. You can even do it here! Thats the second clue.

The third is then the actual 'Phishing' site itself. It will be designed to look official again, with the correct logos, and even a few real links at the bottom. But you'll always be forwarded straight to the page to login, with the username and password, and is usually quite convincing.

But before you go ahead and start entering your details, stop and look.......

Can you see the Padlock, at the end of your address bar? (where you type in your web addresses), or sometimes in the bottom right of your browser (again in the grey area)? No, you can't. That means its not a secure site (theres no need for a scammer to create one...). If you do see the padlock, click on it. You should see the certificate created by that sites owner, and it should be the bank, Ebay, Paypal etc that you are expecting. If not, then again its a fake site.

Don't you think a bank, Ebay and Paypal would know your name? yes, they would. Secondly, they wont tell you to log in from an email. Even if they do, ALWAYS log in by going to the website itself.

I made this 'website' and Email in less than an hour. I am instantly emailed to results. Its that easy to do. The fake websites are usually there less than 48 hours, once they have harvested enough details, and they can be in your bank, shifting money to another account and withdrawing it in hours.

I'm honest. Thieves scammers and webscum couldn't care less. They don't have a conscience and will take what they can. Remember these guidelines above...

Above all, NEVER CLICK ON A LINK IN AN EMAIL! And if it sounds too good to be true (you won the lottery, send us bank details and we'll put it in your bank account!) then purleease. It is. Don't be fooled!!

Stay safe online




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